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I didn't realize the JWT was conservative with timing >>
Posted by
ChristopherTheOne
on January 29, 2003 at 5:21 PM
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Good Job Ash, how much total timing did you achieve
posted by MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z)
on January 29, 2003 at 03:32 PM
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Granted, I'm not boosting past stock, but my timing was around 24-26 degrees as full boost came on (~3500) and torque peaked, then slid back toward 20deg as it hit 6000 and briefly blipped to 21deg at the redline.
From my 4th gear dyno pull:
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Dyno results are in. JWT, AshSpec & Zemulated.
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AshsZ (FABio)
19:45:04 01/28/03
Nice numbers. Looks like 400rwhp on stockers will become
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U ZCREAM (TTZ in '03)
19:50:53 01/28/03
This helps,, lol :)
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ZBlacktt
20:21:27 01/28/03
stock turbos are stock turbos :-) (n/m)
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U ZCREAM (TTZ in '03)
20:59:28 01/28/03
It's possible with less, trust me :)
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SeedyROM
22:00:19 01/28/03
Sean damn near put that down last Saturday here >>
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ChristopherTheOne
16:54:38 01/29/03
Next week we are taking two leaf blowers, 1 for each IC :)>>
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AshsZ (FABio)
18:25:51 01/29/03
nice numbers! keep it up (n/m)
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Zeus
19:57:16 01/28/03
You need a FMIC:-) And how do you guys >>>
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George(boostsolutionsinc.net)
19:58:28 01/28/03
the awning over the dyno is metal. It echoed the sound
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AshsZ (FABio)
20:02:23 01/28/03
Was your highest run 16psi, or did I miss it :) (n/m)
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ZBlacktt
20:22:41 01/28/03
his car wasnt that loud
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SkiFly01
21:20:19 01/28/03
Very nice. Can't wait !! (n/m)
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aspendog
20:02:15 01/28/03
A couple of questions
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onlinediamond
20:03:30 01/28/03
Intake, exhaust tips after resonators, pulley, my ECU.
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AshsZ (FABio)
20:20:40 01/28/03
ECU turnaround, same day overnight.
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AshsZ (FABio)
20:21:58 01/28/03
I stand corrected! The NA has 188K miles on it!!
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AshsZ (FABio)
21:34:47 01/28/03
The NA mods are...
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SkiFly01
21:36:31 01/28/03
you put down 190 with those mods and the JWT chip?
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Guapo
21:47:02 01/28/03
It isnt JWT, its Ash spec
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SkiFly01
22:19:56 01/28/03
I was referring to the 190 you put down on JWT.
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Guapo
22:26:44 01/28/03
What are you saying, Guapo? I want to hear the bottom line.
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AshsZ (FABio)
22:33:29 01/28/03
getting 189 on stock ecu is not bad
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SkiFly01
23:02:12 01/28/03
He was also able to tune for fuel though, which
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AshsZ (FABio)
13:12:02 01/29/03
I think what he's getting at is the fact that he
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AshsZ (FABio)
22:30:54 01/28/03
I'm not trying to be stubborn
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Guapo
00:11:22 01/29/03
His car also has 188K miles on it. Not sure how
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AshsZ (FABio)
07:38:50 01/29/03
yeah, that was a typo in reference to the porting
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Guapo
10:05:26 01/29/03
on the NA program isn't 13.5 kinda lean for the street? (n/m)
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MyWhiteZTT(NJ)
20:03:59 01/28/03
Nope 13.5 might be a little rich for an NA, but
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Chip(GinnMotorsports)
20:06:39 01/28/03
ok...but for a TT 12.5 a safe point for the street? (n/m)
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MyWhiteZTT(NJ)
20:11:35 01/28/03
I'd say 11.5 is safe. I made good power at that A/F,
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AshsZ (FABio)
20:23:17 01/28/03
In boost the AFR has to be 11.5 to 12. But if you have a
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George(boostsolutionsinc.net)
20:24:14 01/28/03
I would stay away from 12.5, built engine or not.
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Chip(GinnMotorsports)
22:22:14 01/28/03
where are the jwt vs yours?
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genic
20:34:26 01/28/03
I didn't do a comparison of mine vs. JWT's because
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AshsZ (FABio)
20:50:02 01/28/03
good points. but you still suck :)
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genic
21:00:13 01/28/03
ROFL.. HEre's the cliff notes>
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AshsZ (FABio)
21:04:14 01/28/03
ahh...sweet. see now thats useful to people like me (n/m)
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genic
21:05:39 01/28/03
what mods are you talking about?
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aliaZ
21:05:13 01/28/03
yeah, I admit I know very little, but what is it about Ashs
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hoss
21:07:30 01/28/03
Portwork, piston crown work, combustion chamber work
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AshsZ (FABio)
21:17:36 01/28/03
good stuff. Thanks for the info. (n/m)
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hoss
21:43:40 01/28/03
its amazing these small changes make such a big difference
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ScubaSteve
22:43:35 01/28/03
Opening the ports helps. Polishing it doesnt. >
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AshsZ (FABio)
23:43:47 01/28/03
Good call, nice work :) (n/m)
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SeedyROM
21:58:37 01/28/03
2ND. (n/m)
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Arturo C.
23:06:19 01/28/03
very interesting. (n/m)
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sbsTT(MD)
21:50:03 01/28/03
Where is this new dyno place?
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BDz32 (FL)
22:29:23 01/28/03
Do you have SAE HP number? They are all Actual HP
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Mega Pascal
22:54:15 01/28/03
The numbers in the dyno charts are the corrected SAE
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AshsZ (FABio)
23:45:30 01/28/03
No, actually the numbers in the charts are all uncorrected>
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Mike (Austin)
11:35:02 01/29/03
You are correct. It was pinging on the last few runs
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AshsZ (FABio)
12:08:39 01/29/03
Hahahaha
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Marshall
04:27:36 01/30/03
Forever, o wise one (n/m)
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Mike (Austin)
17:55:05 01/30/03
I think it's time to bury the hatchet. (n/m)
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Marshall
01:13:03 01/31/03
Ash, I'm still waiting for my eprom...
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weingart
23:01:57 01/28/03
Argh.... Again? I have sent an EPROM twice...
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AshsZ (FABio)
23:15:39 01/28/03
Fedex, DHL, both are ok... but
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weingart
23:48:45 01/28/03
It should be ready by march. The hardest part is done>
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AshsZ (FABio)
23:54:06 01/28/03
USPS = UNITED STATES postal service, not Canadian =) (n/m)
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SoSideways
04:39:54 01/29/03
I use USPS to ship to Canada, your statement makes no sense. (n/m)
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Chip(GinnMotorsports)
10:11:36 01/29/03
If you would just use EMS, you would have a tracking number
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Chip(GinnMotorsports)
10:09:47 01/29/03
....
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RSR
07:13:27 01/29/03
I dont squeeze the programs to the limit. There is
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AshsZ (FABio)
09:34:56 01/29/03
Sounds like you've thought about it..... (n/m)
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RSR
11:26:43 01/29/03
What about OBD2? (n/m)
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ZXtaZTT
07:32:53 01/29/03
What about it?
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AshsZ (FABio)
07:39:51 01/29/03
Very nice, but here's a question i thought of this morning
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Woody75 (Denver)
08:22:57 01/29/03
If you fine tune it initially, the MAS should correct
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Chip(GinnMotorsports)
10:13:50 01/29/03
Exactly. Another point, if it were so slippery as
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AshsZ (FABio)
10:29:19 01/29/03
If you want to build a dyno queen, you can..
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AshsZ (FABio)
10:27:21 01/29/03
OK, I am almost convinced AshsZ
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stepn2ya
11:05:08 01/29/03
The $250 is for an EPROM upgrade. It is a new memory
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AshsZ (FABio)
12:05:22 01/29/03
Is the ECU upgrade being done on exchange?
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RezidentEvil
13:28:00 01/29/03
You send your ECU to me. I take care of everything. (n/m)
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AshsZ (FABio)
14:40:02 01/29/03
The emprom is different than the ones in our cars with cost
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MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z)
15:34:09 01/29/03
The Zemulator uses flashram. Its backed up with an
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AshsZ (FABio)
17:30:57 01/29/03
Good Job Ash, how much total timing did you achieve
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MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z)
15:32:18 01/29/03
And that's the main reason I didn't compare mine to JWT>>
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AshsZ (FABio)
16:11:35 01/29/03
I didn't realize the JWT was conservative with timing >> -
ChristopherTheOne
17:21:07 01/29/03
Will the Zemulater handle N02 and dual mafs ? I would
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MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z)
17:19:30 01/29/03
Dual MAS setups will require an averaging circuit
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AshsZ (FABio)
17:41:54 01/29/03
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